Banning AI Art

daedric7 said:

I have a question:

If a Game/Movie/Anime/something uses AI and someone posts a screenshot of that...

Is it AI or not ?

We're talking things that are at least 95% AI generated.

I'm surprised. I thought the ability to toggle AI art on and off was a great solution.

I suspect there will be other sites that do not restrict AI Art who will eventually be much more pupular because of it. And wallhaven will eventually either buckle to the pressure or dissappear.

But, it ain't my site, so it ain't my call.

It's too bad we can't let the best stuff in. Like maybe we have a separate site for AI walls (wallhades) and the top 1% gets posted on here.

Secure the border and only let in the cream-of-the-crop.

zippzap said:

daedric7 said:

I have a question:

If a Game/Movie/Anime/something uses AI and someone posts a screenshot of that...

Is it AI or not ?

Every image is likely to be touched with AI in the future, so yes of course it is allowed. It's just images that are generated 100% by AI that are on the chopping block, but is 90% AI ok? 80% AI? 50%? or only 25% AI... that is the fine line we will live with for the rests of our lives.

It's cool to test the limits of rules but the fact is that even if you inpainted an image you wouldn't be able to tell me what % was touched up. It's always going to come down to a judgement call. A few pixels edited would fly, but significant alteration, that might not - there's going to be subjectivity to what constitutes alteration. You made a lot of points in this thread and I want to throw some back.

As for AI being another "tool", a tool isn't something you tell to do the work for you. AI is as much as tool as employees are "tools". You can tell them to do something and they will do it, but they are separate entities and they're responsible for the output. AI isn't a tool, it's a machine capable of great output, but it is making the result - not the prompter. It's easier to wrap your head around it if you imagine a group of interns being on the other end of a prompt box. You can work with it for the end result but that's a working relationship. If you have to instruct anything, that puts you in a managerial role - not the role of a creator.

"Steve, make me a sandwhich, masterpiece, subway_lora_v_0_1, pickles. Damn I am good at making sandwiches" It's just nonsense. With AI everyone loses. The audience, the prompters, and people who practice a real craft. The audience loses because they're robbed of the ability to engage with human expression. The prompters lose because they're taking credit for an AI's work (AI rights might come quicker than we think if the rate of progress is as exponential as people say). Artists lose for obvious reasons - their field is oversaturated with machine-made products and people are less and less sure what's human. Art connects us to other humans, consciously and subconsciously. Even if you like something made by AI, somewhere you know there was little to no human experience driving it. You can never think to yourself "I wonder what drove them to paint it this way".

Love the decision btw, made an account just to say thank you. It's nice to have at least one place stand up against the great ensloppification of our world.

I'm with you, Glad you did! :)

thanks god!this is good news